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12 STEP CHAT: Terms of Addiction

are not terms of endearment!
I learned today that certain terms are not allowed in 12 step group meetings, it's a non acceptable medical term not allowed in 12 step talk. I was sorta sideswiped!

when I mentioned co-dependency, I was immediately hushed. cause for a pause. from that point on I was mostly ignored. Oh well! So I asked what term is acceptable. Twice asked to be exact. finally a woman said alanonies... WOW, don't suppose I would ever apply that term to myself.

this woman stated she has worked the program for 52 years. So she still has the need to be in these rooms? if the steps work, then at what point one is free from the need to be involved in support groups? Is this a misguided question?

I notice several things about support groups. They all seem to thrive on each other’s sorrow, stories and issues. Most likely no one gets "better" with this thought process. Some of them actually disassociate with "normal" populations and even consider non-addict's outsiders as in "THEM". "They just don't understand us" was the comment of a man who explained the Celebrate Recovery group at a church. I walked away from that group, astonished at the total control over what can be discussed and what cannot. No interaction, just empty space between the stories. Some stories were decades old with no resolve on many of the attendee’s part.

Listening is the big thing in 12 step groups, but in the chat room all I saw was everyone writing at the same time and not really connecting or hearing deeply. Realize it was open chat and not the formal online meetings, which indeed are quite structured.

These are facts from my point of view on groups. It’s understood that AA, AL-ANON, NA, Celebrate Recovery have help millions of people put their life back together. It makes me wonder what people do to get well on the other side of 12 steps...

Guess it's time to discover all the terminology in this area of study. Oh, others complained about being labeled. I agree with that, but sometimes you need to know what you are dealing with disease or sickness wise before you can find the cure.

CELEBRITY: Sixx: A.M. - Life is Beautiful

no words needed!

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CELEBRITY: Sobriety is cool...

Nikki Sixx of Motley Crew is a joy to see recovery in the world of rock and roll.

Nowadays, he's high on everything but drugs: his kids, his music, his clothing line, his book, and most importantly, his efforts to aid drug addicts. With a workaholic's zeal, he jumps from one project to the next.

"My take is never to be a preacher," said Sixx of his and others' addictions. "I hate that people think it's a moral problem. It's a disease. George Bush thinks that it's a moral problem, and so I'm working with people in Washington, D.C., to help him understand that it's a disease.

THOUGHT: Bail-Outs, Addicts & Codependents

Bail outs, addicts & codependents all victims of the system. Or are they? They are like a spinning wheel with no end.


Co-dependents are often sited for bailing out of relationships with addicts. more often they don't bail due to the overly responsible nature built into them from their own experiences growing up in an addictive/dysfunctional family. it's not that they don't think about bailing on a bad relationships, but they stay regardless of the never-ending cycles of an addicts roller coaster ride. all the empty promises, the repentant pleas not to break the bond.

Feels just like the government having to bail out these banks, most likely CEO's who are addicts themselves-addicts to power and greed. the government gets blamed for enabling bad business practice while the CEO's and businesses walk scott free and tons of money on top of it all. so now the government gets the mess of cleaning out bad accounts, heavy losses while trying to make sense of it all. it's the root of all evil you know. not money but the love of it. i would suppose that the love of anything other than the Creator, ones self and each other is likened to a long head fall into unhealthy addiction.

just like co-dependents. living the days with the ravishes of irresponsible addicts, covering all their mistakes, making ends meet with nary any support or appreciation - only scorn from the addict who thinks the codependent is just trying to make them look bad. again the addict gets all the attention, while the one who fixes things gets dumped on for simply doing all it takes to make things work.

i hear so many stories about the maneuvers of addicts. they get bailed out of jail on their own tearful pleas and begging and tears that they have changed. the people around them help with new places, money and jobs. only to have the addict turn right around and buy drugs, and begin the lying schemes all again.

Just like the corruption in Washington by crooked politicians and bankers...